Well seems my post brought a few comments out. Dont get me wrong I love the pictures Vue generates, when it works it works (this is my third version I have brought). I do generally import poser files and then save as VOB been doing this fore a while. So heres the funny thing, I had been loading this poser figure last week and crashed everytime, this week after finnishing work I tried again twice it crashed then it loaded (WT@#$^) I saved it as VOB as soon as I could. I have loaded into a scene I have been working on for a week it now rendering( this picture should have only taken a couple of hours to get finnished but due to all the crashes its taken me a week to get to a render). I will post the pic when rendered in the Vue gallery. Thanks all!!!!