Forum: Bryce


Subject: Hey - I recognise those models!!

rj001 opened this issue on Apr 28, 2006 · 59 posts


Mugsey posted Sat, 29 April 2006 at 8:58 AM

Firstly - I drew my avatar under the influence of - yes - massinve amounts of caffiene and a Nihilists contempt for convention -

SECONDLY - Agent Smith, you have made valid, solid, and VERY ethically sound statements and arguments toward my position that were very intelligently presented - and I appreciate them sir, but please let me clarify / summarize my core point:

My feelings are that IT IS WRONG to take a package of Bryce presets that someone else has made, and in their true form or slightly modified, sell them AS a preset package that was allegedly authored by you -

but - on the other hand - IT IS NOT UNETHICAL to use a preset made by someone else (specifically a sky, a terrain, a water, a metal, or a pattern or volume mat) in an image of your creation, and claim complete authorship of the original image as a whole without any guilt or remorse over using a preset to "color" a detail.

Royalties and fees are more or less a business issue rather than a purely legal issue, but I feel that in that regard that if the person using the "borrowed" preset is in financial difficulties or financial dire straights, then it wouldn't kill the person who offered the preset in the first place to say "Sure - go ahead and use it, don't worry about - it's cool dude / chick.

I am however iffy about .obp models. In my mind there's a big difference between a mountain texture or a sky color - and an elaborately constructed castle. A construction differs from an "environmental element" like a sky, water, terrain, etc. - in that it can exist as a single cohesive entity rather than being an incomplete "puzzle piece" within a much larger image. It's more of an obvious "signature item" than merely a passive asthetic complimentary element, and thus - may represent a completed work in and of itself. Ethically speaking - an artist in my opinion has a slightly stronger leg to stand on in asking for compensation for a non-typical model construction rather than for an organic environmental component that is itself, by definition, merely a dependant variable in the greater eqaution of the image itself.

NOW GO SUCK A SWEAT SOCK YOU RANCID SONS OF A FECID TURTLE, WHERE'S MY FREAKIN PROZAC !!! I USED MY STINKIN NOODLE TOO MUCH, MY HEAD HURTS - AAAARRRRRGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!