Yayhey Paul! I'm glad it got straightened out okay. :) What I think Mike is trying to suggest is to make your water plane invisible (by moving it into its own layer). I'm not exactly sure why you'd want to do that, though. Vue will clip objects that are below the ground plane, and water is typically lower than the ground plane, but in this care, your water plane is clearly above the ground plane, so making it invisible from the views wouldn't do much good for anything that I know of. Maybe I'm not understanding what he means. :) As for the critters, well the problem I get is with plants. Big plants, little plants, all kinds of plant. They just seem to wander in no matter what kind of scene I'm building. Vue is so cool. :)