Well, since I have no Poser due to viruses I am entertaining myself in the forums while virus scans run on 4 PC's - all infected. I would be thrilled right now to render a boring V3, but unfortunately, some mental midget wrote a virus that wrecked my Pcs. I know what you mean, though. After a while. V3 gets old and textures do seem similar. I think that's why a lot of people like Miki. She's new.