Thanks every one for your comments about my pic and forgot to say that Lnaover made all of those great columns for me and Skyking made the Kelp for me and I used mjustmike's curved stairs in it. It turned into a real group effort! I might even have a couple of Varian's plants in it too. S I didn't know you did that underwater pic in Vue, smallspace! WOW! Makes me appreciate all of the work in it much more now! Thank You, Bloodsong! Now that's all I needed was for someone to tell me HOW to do that, step by step. LOL Told ya, I'm Web Challenged & HTML Challenged, etc. Computers and the internet are a whole new world for me. We've only be on line since Dec of 1999. That's when we joined Renderosity and first posted. Verdie : )