regarding anton being pushed out the door, I have to suggest that he wasn't explicitly shown the door by either CP or 'rosity, but neither of them made a public attempt to meet him halfway AFAIK. there is such a thing as diplomacy and negotiation, after all. add to that his many detractors engaging in the usual lynch mob, and the hostile environment obviously made it difficult for him to continue. yes, we all know that anton has been over-zealous in the defence of his products, and we're familiar with his activities going back as far as 99 or 00, hence I was disappointed to see his detractors goading him yet again, like so many raucous crows mobbing an old owl on the forest's edge. in the matter of clark being good or superior in regard to textures, I have a question about that. I don't own clark, haven't seen the texmap or template, but I think I saw a suggestion that his mapping was a step backwards. if anybody can show me a link to clark's template that doesn't violate its terms of use, I'd like to check it out, if only to disabuse me of any concerns in that matter.