their is a point to be made about this free speech crap people are mentioning. ...if anton is allowed the use of it...everyones allowed the use of it. as for free speech per se...there is no such animal. if it were so, we would'nt have verbal racial abuse, libel, slander, d notices for the media, gagging orders from the court, or injunctions to stop somthing being said in print or mentioned in public...please get real people. whatever rights anton had or has, so to does everyone everywhere.

as for non modelers not having enough authority to say what they think...again ...crap.  this is a forum all members here have a right to speak about and discuss any topic put forward. if not then you're saying the person who knows the most is the person everyone else should listen to. the thing that was wrong about the thread in question is that it was made personal....mainly by anton, people retaliated as people do...thats called human nature...people to a side of the fence...thats called human nature.....anton acted like a child and took his ball away. that's called imaturity. i know shit about making a model and not much more about anything else in poserdom but i'm learning. that doesn't mean i or anyone else who hasn't created a figure has no right to voice an opinion or ask a question. anton shot himself in the foot. it wasn't the fault of anyone else but him. he deserves no better treatment than anyone else doesand no worse. if anything i think it was apretty good thread......for one it cleared up a point of what is and isnt allowed. it made someone set a precedence for what the author of clark was accussed of and how he was accused. it also shows others that if you don't have substantial proof don't bring it to the table of an open forum. just for thesse two points the thread served a valid purpose.   being a non modeler i'll probably get shot down for the above but unlike anton i'm capable of accepting what other people say as their personal opinon.  antone has no defense for the outcome of what he did in a public forum.

he like everyone else is responsible for the outcome of his own actions.

 

billy