I have no doubt that exceptional renders are possible in P6, and these will be much easier for the average user to achieve in P7. however, I see rendering as Poser's biggest problem, whose best solution is to pose the characters/scene in poser, then export to a real renderer. many years ago, when people were griping about how lousy things looked in a P4 render, I tried to convince them not to bog down the poser 5 code with alotta fake rendering gimmicks and quirks that would easily defeat their client base, and just leave it like larry intended it. but they gave in to the demands and tried to add full rendering functions. hence it became a self-fulfilling prophecy - the rendering functions are too complex for new users, they're several years behind the curve, and the typical render by the typical user still has the dreaded "poser look" that 3D snobs are fond of ridiculing.