This discussion is getting pointless.

The various views are subjective, so cannot be accepted by one faction or defended by another.
All have already made up their mind, and for each, it is truth. Trying to change that point of view is bound to fail, since each only holds an opinion, not an incontravertable fact, able to be backed up with forensic evidence. It's just a difference of interpretation.

So there can be no conclusion, except, perhaps, an agreement to differ.

Can be fun, for a while, but sooner or later it becomes boring. (Well, at least, to me it does - but  then that's just my opinion, which I will not try to impose on anyone else..)

:-))

Cheers,
Diolma