Thank you. Just spot lights. Been learning basic lighting..no fancies. You can see the difference. I find just exploring one area is the key...you then get to really understand what you can do. I didn't get C5 til dec and the whole CG thing is new, but it's just fascinating. The texture map is from natasha by michelle, btw. It is free...here at rosity. I did redo the lips in the original map, too much gloss for me then I created highlight, bump, dis maps. It takes alot of tweaking...not something you want to do everytime. You would go mad. I have been playing w/ SSS on another project also. Like Shonner, have spent hours playing with just a hand. :lol:  Procedurals don't convey from program to program so that will always be a challenge. Once you start understanding Carrara...you will probably do the work in there. I really like the texture/light stuff and think I will probably start having to make my own textures maps :D However, I gotta get more ram! 1 GB cannot handle all that too well.

No need to think outside the box....
    Just make it invisible.