yep - it is thanks - usefull tips - i will try this for lots of my poser modeling from now on!

with the chimp / monkey project though it is the shape that is most important as the model will be 80% darked out and you will see the shape more than the detail!

i will happy pay for good chimp model (i spy a gap in the market for a skilled modeler)!

thanks again...

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