I agree with the awesome value that the Carrara bundle represents; as I said earlier I almost bit on it. Different strokes and all that. I felt the same about the Vue5I/Lightwave 8.5/9.0 bundle for $795, and could easily make the same argument over Lightwave as a package vs. Carrara, but the point is moot. As a LW user since 6.0 I was stunned that not everyone in the graphic universe didn't jump on the deal (ends tomorrow I believe BTW) I have to accept that it'snot everyone's cup of tea. Many seem to be shifting to Carrara, and Vue will be forced to respond if they are to survive. You've done your part in encouraging E-On to evolve and voted with your dollars. It's all you can do bud... Enjoy your package, it is undoubtably a very good one. Although the Lightwave/Vue deal is bette.... oh, never mind :)