Thanks Destro I'll have a pc wiz friend of mine run this along with a few other things I dare not. He can decide if there is risk,, etc. I hang onto this pc because it was a fortune and a superhot handbuilt with 3gigs 3 years ago(linux). It's still fast when it feels like it,, sigh. It's stripped down to 1.5 gigs now. As to the length of your replies, you either type fast as spit or, have some voice feed..;) Defragged again, too. It was pretty clear.