All I can do is Oooooh and Aaaaaaah here in the Bryce Forum, since I really don't have a place here yet except to browse and drool over things I can't do yet!! Don't know Bryce yet, but it's coming!! Glad to see your still cranking out those nice images, you should really post them on the Gallery pages. I'll be re-vamping my site very soon, as I find that my stuff is already getting "old". Can do so much more with Poser 4. If it wasn't for poser 4, I'd know Bryce by now, but it's, (poser 4), is keeping me soooo busy!!!! One of these days, I will surprise you with a Bryce image!! Radart.