"but please stop the "GIMME, GIMME, GIMME NOW!!!!!" --Antycon

You've got that ALL WRONG Antycon... this isn't something I want "NOW"- I've been patiently asking and doing everything possible to get these features done within Vue's SECRET SYSTEM. I've exchanged a huge number of emails PRIVATELY with E-on about this for over TWO YEARS.

I've also was one of the very FIRST people to get this Vue forum established, post in it and among the very first to be using POSER models in Vue (which got me attacked by MANY PEOPLE who said I was trying to replace POSER-- or BRYCE - then the BIG FAVORITE 3D Landscape software here...)

I was among the first here to begin posting V5 images with HDRI and explaining how how HDR and LDR could be used for rendering in Vue...

I've also contributed a lot of information to E-on on improving their Terrain module and their problems with mapping, resolution, file import, etc.

I've also contributed a lot of information to E-on on how they could greatly improve their Cloud rendering technology- and tricks that could make it a lot faster- something that in FACT may be showing up in the NEXT RELEASE of Vue...!!!

All of my efforts have been about looking SEVERAL YEARS AHEAD for E-on to make changes that will keep it an exciting and competitive software... I am always thinking AHEAD- because I know it can take one or two YEARS to get features into a major 3D release...

I am the MOST TICKED OFF about the NPR and Piranesi features because I was told a LONG TIME AGO that these would be "no problem" by E-on and it was something they had been playing around with, etc...(they OWN a copy of Piranesi and have used it INTERNALLY at E-on-- they just have never RELEASED the Plug-in!)   The whole point of Piranesi and NPR, as well as TOON SHADERS- is that they have a much wider PROFESSIONAL APPLICATIONS that just some little render that someone is going to tape onto their refrigerator...

If the day ever comes that E-on finally impliments these features in Vue- and they become used in Professional Work- and we see E-on saying " Big 3D Companies, graphic designers and Architects LOVE using our NEW artistic rendering features," ---etc... we will know that it was because SOMEONE kept BUGGING THEM to DO IT!

E-on will ONLY add better clouds, fix their terrain mapping/file issues, and maybe FIX their overall BUGGY software- if enough people keep bring up the issues. ----Just waiting around to be "SURPRISED" is STUPID...

I get the impression that EOVIA doesn't deal in SURPRISES- they closely INTERACT with their users, software developers- and EVEN come to the WEB BOARDS and TALK WITH THEM!!!

Heh- when has E-ON ever decended their THRONE to come out and talk with the MASSES and ask them what they want in the NEXT RELEASE???