"to do some neon on the rear truss sign and make the street lights a little more believeable" errr...I read that but still don't quite understand the part you mention about being "neon". "(it took forever to render)"...for 'heavy' scene like that, you can selected the items you want to render only thru the "renedr" menu. This is great for test run which I normally do. Anyway, I will check out the truss sign at your site and see what you mean by neon at its rear.