nomuse:  I don't understand about the obvious modeling methods.  What does it matter how you do it?  As long as it's your own work.  Well, I looked at your musical WIP and they were awesome!  You DO know what you are doing, that is for sure.

I just took a long nap and I am very mad at myself.  I guess I was just frustrated.  I think I will write up all of this as "Advanced Users" tutorial.  As much as I want to be able to make the prop I want when I want it, I MUST learn what you guys are telling me.

You guys are good!!

Thank you for all of the help. 

Jan