For what it's worth..Study of Dr Geep's tuts has proven far more useful to me than the manual ever was. I like his sense of humor, and irreverence..as for art for art's sake..(Yawn) who cares? do what comes naturally and if folks don't approve..tough. I use poser as a hobby, and get a lot of pleasure and enjoyment out of the program..I'm not trying to make stuff for the Louve, or the Hermitage, anyway.  "Artistic mistakes?" Har. I have profited greatly from those fellow artists who have taken the time to help me get organized, learn better lighting, work around Poser limitations, and show me better ways to present my material..and this only happens when I make an "Artistic Mistake" so those who want to get the most out of Poser..see, read, and practice what Dr Geep has in his locker before you give up. He's my hero! (along with Zell, fls13, and DPHoadley) and yes, I do post upon occasion, have a gallery, and access to high powered 3d programs, but Poser is what I feel most comfortable with, and that's what I use.