Hey thanks again, F-M! Here, on Florida's East coast (Jacksonville Beach), wew have alot of red spotted ses bass, a member of the drum family, which for all intents and purposes are very similar to their freshwater counterparts, although listed as semi-endangered, due to their incredible flavor when cooked---mmmmm...balckened redfish...mnmmmmm.... But I personally think this DAZ bass is wel worth it simply due to its' shape--- it could just as easily become any species of bass, with the proper texture, and with a minor amount of morphing in Poser, a perch, or maybe even a pike. That's the first thing I try to see in a Poser model--- not what it IS, but what it can ALSO become. So thanks for the link to the pics! :) And Bill, I almost forgot, thanks for the tips! Grouper? Yeah, I agree, but the groupers we have here aren't quite as colorful, though close.