I've never seen any commercially acceptable toon renders in carrara, but with a few months' work you might get lucky, if you know the right people to tell you the exact settings needed definitely not poser - worst toon shaders I've ever seen :lol: what kills it with poser is that postwork is always needed, whenever toon shaders rear their ugly heads IMVHO. and postwork of that kind (redrawing the lines) is outta the question in animation the only commercially acceptable toon shaders I've seen were done in either max or lightwave. I dunno what software was used in that new drug movie starring keanu and featuring nude scenes with winona, based on the p. k. dick novel, but I heard that the toon shading process was an agonising, seemingly unending nightmare for them. :crying: