i tried the wrapping and stretching one nancy and got the same results...she is  a bit of a monster isn't she lmao. it was a trial run. i didn't want to spend ages making a seam free patchwork and find it was to no avail. just want to be able to get any poto texture where its supposed to go and then i'll create a work of art hehe. or should that be a work of rubbish.  the head itsef has been aand is being much improved day by day. will be a long time before it gets away from looking like a missing link though.  and it looks like the people are right about the tiling. gonna have another go at the tut john directed me to. trouble is me and tuts don't seem to mix that well. i won't mind if it just ends up looking like a badly made head...with crit i can always improve lmao.

 

billy