Oh, and Fox? I don't have the bass model, but I'm have tempted to run over to DAZ and grab the template and try it out. Ya wanna test the texture for me if I do? ;) Thanks for your compliments on my textures. I personally don't feel that they're that great...I'm still just learning to texture really and I feel I have far to go. But I always plod on...trying texturing, trying modeling. So much to learn, so little time....(sigh). My only saving grace as far as texturing is my knowledge of Photoshop; been using it since before version 3 all those years ago. Laurie