Also check out Morphworld (part of Bbay). It's got a lot of ways to make The Dork (P4Male) and Posette (P4Female)look much less like androids. The Costume Shop CD from DAZ has 2 more variants of these modelss with a bunch of morph dials so that you can move one side of the face (as in a sneer) which helps make them less perfect, too. Many of the morphs on various sites have been created to make the models look like specific superheros or movie/TV stars. It is amazing what can be done with just the base characters! There are many textures to make Posette even prettier. We need more textures to make them both look more human and interesting. Carolly