What's the difference between Alias and Poser? About twenty grand... <> Seriously, it reallly is the NURBS that make the figures look so much softer and more realistic than polygon meshes like Poser uses. If you really want to get into this, then buy a copy of Martin Hash's Animation Master... a NURBS-based modeler that doesn't require a Silicon Graphics workstation to run. It's only about $200.00 and the results you get are incredible. (However it has, to put it kindly, a steep learning curve.) You can find out more about it at http://www.martinhash.com (and the Alias home page is at http://www.aw.sgi.com ) -Nemo