Cyba_Storm does make a point. Most Poser art is unbelievably pathetic. Mostly it's the overabundance of zombie stares that tend to zone out my brain, but when you add in all the glowing and light filled nostrols, greatly exaggerated breasts and excrusiatingly bad poses....well then....you do have the sum total of crap produced by losers. This is not to say that all Poser images are crap, cause I have seen some truly creative and very well done images produced in Poser. Images that are just as good as anything seen in the galleries of cgtalk that were produced in programs that are alot more highend than lowly Poser. But the majority of images done in Poser, at least on this site, are nothing more than people playing with dolls, or little adolesent boys getting their kicks by overexaggerating the size of Vicks breasts. rj001...you and I are in the same boat. The Art Charts is nothing more than the Hot 20 morphing into the Hot 50 with now everyone playing in the same backyard.