hehehe... the man is actually modeled to some dgree on me, but he has quite a bit more hair :) but the facial hair was in two parts, I used a texture map that had some light facial hair in the face, and then added a goatee prop, which I then used a hair tex/bump... then set the trasparency on it... No post production at all was done on this fig yet... since it is an early render, I didnt see the need for it yet.. The base figure for the man though is DD's Body suit man... he was the one who did the great job on the face, though i touched it up a little... and I had to use long sleaved clothing to cover up the body suit.. hehehe I'll post the final when done... Darrin