naw, there are only 10 kinds of people - those who understand binary code, and those who don't :lol: but seriously, it's been a week already since that other thread? I don't recall the details, but I recall some of 'em provided some fairly good answers. you gotta realise, at some of these forum sites, they will freak out if you question their judgement, but I think they have handled the questions in a relatively reasonable manner here.