Beautiful, Varian, really great, and thanks! I suppose one of these days I'll have to study the technique and figure it out! So until then, I'm heading on over to snatch them up before you realize you could be selling this stuff! Err, forget I said that. ;) .... F-M, Y'know, I installed XFrog's most recent demo, and downloaded C-Wied's palm, and saved it out as .obj, but I can't get it to render correctly to save my life. I end up with large blobs of the famous Blue Gunk, and can't get rid of it. Is their some sort of trick to it? I'll post a quick picture so y'all can see what I mean.