when you say open the corners do you mean spread the vertices in from the corners to the center, i hope so cos i don't want to exaggerate the width of her mouth. will give it a try and see what it looks like  thanks. like i say i'm still working on the nose lol, upto now it's had a 100 different shapes but the one i want hehe. i do have a question though....how do i get rid of the light that streams out of her snot holes lol

 

billy