Nice find, Fox, thanks! "Wayne" as in Wayne Grindberg? Prolific display of talent for that dude! These models weren't necessarily converted. They could genuinely have been made in an older version of 3D Studio. MJM: I wish I knew how they got the lettering on it without a texture map, though. -- Without looking at the tractor, I'd make the guess that each of the letters is a model in itself. That would be a quick way of doing it, although it would likely add a bunch of "weight" (polygons and bytes) to the model's file. Another way would be to select particular polygons and assign a different material to them; I don't know if 3D Studio permits that kind of thing, but being more higher-end, I'd assume it would have some kind of facility for doing that.