o.k., there you have it, then. clean bill of health for IRC. you could have slapped me with a live trout, for all I know about it :lol: I've never gotten any trojans or r.a.t.s on it either, but I use Mac OS. perhaps it's the perfect spot to troll for "open machines", like all those chat room lurkers who log on, then go down to the 7-11 for a "big-gulp" and some beef jerky or whatever they call it now :lol: