BTW; Here's Rendergarden MkII. The little 14" CRT on top has been retired, and a cheapy 17" LCD and pantograph arm added. As well as the two rackmount computers at the bottom. Still doing it with mostly recycled parts (the new monitor, the 16 port 10/100 switch, and the 8 port KVM switch were new purchases....but either on clearance sale or from that bastion of cheapness, pricewatch). I think I'm ready for V6 Infinite...... >:)_