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Subject: Deleting Forum Posts?


L8RDAZE ( ) posted Sat, 08 July 2006 at 12:19 AM · edited Sat, 23 November 2024 at 1:01 AM

With the OLD forum setup, we had the ability to delete our posts at anytime.  Now it seems that this option is no longer available to us.  You made removing our galleries quite easy (thank you),  but for some reason... done away with the delete message feature in the new forums.  WHY?

The reason I'm bringing this up is that I've posted a number of photos/images (my intellectual Property)  in the photo forum and I no longer wish for these images to be available for viewing on RENDEROSITY.  

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As per the RENDEROSITY Copyright Policy:

Intellectual Property

Copyright Policy (Please Read)

"Renderosity members remain the original copyright holder in all materials (software and content) provided on the community. Use of the material inconsistent with the terms and conditions set forth is prohibited and considered an infringement of the copyrights of the respective holders unless specially stated otherwise."

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If I request my posts be deleted,especially those containing MY images, this should be honored, according to the above text. 

Please Note: If  the delete message option was currently available, I would have NO PROBLEM deleting my own stuff!     Unfortunately....I can't!?! 

So, you can see my predicament here and why this question is being raised.

I'm sure there are other members out there, who may be wondering about the same thing and what the OFFICIAL PROCEDURES are regarding the removal of posts/images in forums.

I figured  the CC forum would be the best place to ask this.

Your attention to this matter is greatly appreciated.






williamsn ( ) posted Sat, 08 July 2006 at 12:26 AM

Members have always been restricted to deleting/editing their own posts within 15 minutes of posting them. After that, they can't. It has always been this way (or at least it has been for the past couple years, since well before the changeover). This is because being able to delete/edit a post at any time would potentially make many threads no longer make sense, and could pose problems when one member complained about a TOS violation and the violator deleted/edited before the moderator could get around to fixing it, etc. We will not be changing the way this works. This is a permanent feature. If for intellectual properties reasons you want one of your posts deleted, you can send it to a moderator and I'm sure they will be more than happy to do so for you. N

-Nicholas


StaceyG ( ) posted Sat, 08 July 2006 at 12:28 AM

If you send me the URL to any posts you want deleted, I'll be more than happy to help you out with this.

 

 

Sincerely,

 


L8RDAZE ( ) posted Sat, 08 July 2006 at 12:56 AM

OK...need to get it together and will send to you Stacey!

Thx!






StaceyG ( ) posted Sat, 08 July 2006 at 1:02 AM

No problem:) I'll take care of it for ya as soon as I receive the info.

 

 

Thanks


cliff-dweller ( ) posted Sat, 08 July 2006 at 1:35 AM · edited Sat, 08 July 2006 at 1:36 AM

Quote - Members have always been restricted to deleting/editing their own posts within 15 minutes of posting them. After that, they can't. It has always been this way (or at least it has been for the past couple years, since well before the changeover). This is because being able to delete/edit a post at any time would potentially make many threads no longer make sense, and could pose problems when one member complained about a TOS violation and the violator deleted/edited before the moderator could get around to fixing it, etc. We will not be changing the way this works. This is a permanent feature. If for intellectual properties reasons you want one of your posts deleted, you can send it to a moderator and I'm sure they will be more than happy to do so for you. N

Editing posts has been restricted to fifteen minutes from the time of posting a message, but you could indeed delete your posts at any time before the recent forum changeover. I've done it myself on one occassion and I have read many, many threads where this had been done (it would just state "Message deleted by username). Often it was the first message that was deleted and sometimes that meant you couldn't even tell what the whole long thread was about.

Whether that was a good policy or not can be debated, but to say it was always prohibited after the first 15 minutes is just plain incorrect...sorry...

Check out my full gallery at Cliff-Dweller Artworks


dialyn ( ) posted Sat, 08 July 2006 at 2:46 AM

That's true. Until the new system wass installed, I've deleted posts long after the fifteen minute limited. The moderators were always able to view deleted posts should there be discussions about TOS violations, so that argumen is not logical.  I didn't have a vote in the new system so I know it doesn't matter what I think, but one shouldn't depend on revising history  in order to defend it. 


Simon_P ( ) posted Tue, 25 July 2006 at 10:02 AM

I concur, with the old forum you could indeed delete your posts at any time, it was only the edit function that was restricted to 15 minuets, I understand why that is in place.

You could also just delete images and leave the post as it is, I think it is the images that are the issue here, and the same thoughts had also crossed my mind, maybe one day I will find time to find all the url’s

It dose seem strange to me that deleting images from a post has been disabled with the upgrade. This is the only place I know of where you can’t remove your own images from a forum post.

Even stranger is that the programmer doesn’t even remember that this was possible in the past.

They wouldn’t have made the cane if you weren’t meant to break the rules


Nilla ( ) posted Tue, 25 July 2006 at 3:54 PM

Oh this is good news, I went in to delete my images from my forum posts and found that there was no longer an option to do it myself.  Glad I happened upon this thread, I will be compiling a list for deletion as well.

Thanks!

 


StaceyG ( ) posted Tue, 25 July 2006 at 4:42 PM

Hi Nilla,

 

Just email me (stacey@bondware.com ) with any URL's with images in posts you made that you would like deleted and I'll be happy to take care of these for ya.

 

 

Thanks


Kendra ( ) posted Thu, 27 July 2006 at 12:46 AM

Yep, williamsn is wrong.  We've always been able to delete posts at any time.  It was editing that was restricted. 

...... Kendra


ModestyB ( ) posted Sun, 30 July 2006 at 10:05 AM

Yes I have allso been able to delete posts & pics in  past, William!

& I to wanna delete  ALL my pictures in the forums & the challenges!!!
thanx


KarenJ ( ) posted Sun, 30 July 2006 at 10:09 AM

ModestyB,

as per Stacey's response to Nilla, compile a list and send it to Stacey who will take care of it for you.


"you are terrifying
and strange and beautiful
something not everyone knows how to love." - Warsan Shire


ModestyB ( ) posted Sun, 30 July 2006 at 11:21 AM

Thanx Karen!

I will do that.


TwoPynts ( ) posted Wed, 02 August 2006 at 8:04 AM

I is nice to see everyone working together in such a spirit of cooperation here. 😉 The question as to why we cannot delete them ourselves anymore is still not answered though, and I would like to hear the reasoning behind it, if it isn't too much trouble. Thanks. ~Kort

Kort Kramer - Kramer Kreations


StaceyG ( ) posted Wed, 02 August 2006 at 7:51 PM

Hi TwoPynts,

Are you asking about the reasons behind members not being able to delete their forum posts or images in a forum post?  Let me know and I'll be glad to answer for ya:)


TwoPynts ( ) posted Wed, 02 August 2006 at 10:32 PM

Yes Stacey, I am just wondering why with the new format, that is no longer possible.

Kort Kramer - Kramer Kreations


StaceyG ( ) posted Thu, 03 August 2006 at 7:06 PM

Well as for deleting forum posts, the reason is because if posts get deleted either at the beginning or middle of a thread it can for the most part cause the thread not to make much sense. And in the past unfortunately we had members that would post personal attacks in a thread then go back and delete them after some time had past so people were able to see the attacks and start responding then the thread would get derailed.

Hope this helps explain some reasons behind this change.

Thanks


TwoPynts ( ) posted Thu, 03 August 2006 at 11:04 PM

So if in the heat of the moment somone makes a comment they later regret, they can't retract it? I'm sorry, but that doesn't seem to be a good idea. I can understand about those threads not making as much sense have seen a number of them in my time, but still, I think the ability to retract a statement is a good thing. You can delete a comment in the galleries, so why not in the forum? Admittedly, the Forum is more context sensitive, but I don't see how it is that much different. No big deal, but I do think the reasoning behind doing this is a bit sketchy. But there is a lot of positive to focus on here at RR so let's do that, shall we? Thanks for explaining Stacey. :)

Kort Kramer - Kramer Kreations


Hawkfyr ( ) posted Fri, 04 August 2006 at 12:19 AM

Fire

Aim

Ready

 

 

“The fact that no one understands you…Doesn’t make you an artist.”


Acadia ( ) posted Fri, 04 August 2006 at 6:19 AM

I don't care about the inability to delete forum posts. I think it's a good idea that we can't do that after 15 minutes even though I have been guilty of deleting posts in the past, but not for reasons of flaming.

However, I would like to see the ability to delete images in our posts returned.

It's more work for the mods/admins to be given links to a list of posts that contain images and go and delete them, when it would be far faster and easier for us as the poster to just be able to go and click "delete image". That would delete the image, but not the post, something we were able to do prior to the forum change over.

"It is good to see ourselves as others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to say." - Ghandi



Mahray ( ) posted Fri, 04 August 2006 at 9:34 PM

I'm with Acadia on this one, I occasionally delete a post, but generally because I post then realise that it doesn't add anything to the discussion.

As for deleting images, the only ones I post in threads are quick how-tos etc, so I'm easy.

Come visit us at RenderGods.

Ignore the shooty dog thing.


Angelsinger ( ) posted Wed, 09 August 2006 at 10:29 AM

If anyone is concerned with being able to delete an image, upload your image somewhere else and link to it in your post. All you'll have to do later is change the name of the hosted image, or delete it from that webspace.

That's one solution, anyHOO.


TwoPynts ( ) posted Fri, 11 August 2006 at 8:18 AM

Yes, that is a solution, though more convoluted than it needs to be if we still had the ability to just do it within RR. 😉

Kort Kramer - Kramer Kreations


Angelsinger ( ) posted Fri, 11 August 2006 at 9:47 AM

That's the whole point, TwoPynts. :tongue2: We don't have the ability to do it within rendo, and saying we want to be able to remove an image isn't accomplishing anything in the meantime. At least there is an alternative to give folks a measure of control.

I find it quite easy. My online images are organized into specific folders, and if I want to remove something here, I can easily delete the image and be done. 😄


TwoPynts ( ) posted Fri, 11 August 2006 at 10:16 AM

I agree, it is better than no solution. Not everyone has access to online storage or the technical know how. Thatnks for pointing that out though.

Kort Kramer - Kramer Kreations


Angelsinger ( ) posted Fri, 11 August 2006 at 10:24 AM

Yeah, you have a good point there, TwoPynts. I forget sometimes that everyone may not know about storage options. Well, I'd like to recommend photobucket.com for just such a purpose. Free storage, easy to use.

Thanks for bringing that up! HUGz!


Simon_P ( ) posted Sat, 12 August 2006 at 2:26 PM

What about images that were posted before PHP, there was no linking option then!

They wouldn’t have made the cane if you weren’t meant to break the rules


Angelsinger ( ) posted Sat, 12 August 2006 at 2:56 PM · edited Sat, 12 August 2006 at 3:02 PM

Obviously, my solution wasn't a retroactive one, as no one can go back in time and change how they provided images, even if external linking had been a possibility at the time. What I suggested is for  now.

Edited to add to Simon: Maybe if enough people pipe up, they'll allow that old option of deleting / editing links. : )


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