Forester, you shouldn't let a few bad apples spoil your attitude this way. No matter what methods are employed to prevent theft - there is ALWAYS someone to come behind & hack it.  It was mentioned by someone earlier, that you can't find Vue models on Emule or the like.  Well it's not cause they aren't hackable it's just they aren't popular(no offense-just blanket stmt), while Vue the program maybe.  It's never going to stop - all you guys are doing in inconvienincing your good customers.  I'm all for protecting models but there has to be an easier/more customer friendly way.

I have bought 901 items from RO - can you imagine if each of those was tied to a specific version of Poser & I had 901 different serial numbers :blink:  You might as well kill me now LOL Cause I wouldn't go fo it. I have close to 60g in my Poser runtime alone, imagine If I/we had to reinstall everything with every new version of Poser that came out :blink:

Something has to give somewhere - somehow. For the record I respect all modelers, as I can't model myself yet - just can't find the time learn.

You speak of having to pay $900 to update your programs, well, I for one have to update Vue/Carrara/Shade/PSP/hexagon/Silo etc etc.....those costs well = 900.00 if not more on a yearly basis not to include the cost of yearly puter upgrades!  It never ends!!!!!!

I’m coming from this, from a different point than most.  My problem is paying extra for NON-COPY protected goods &  to possibly find out that the items are locked from export.  As you can see from above list, I use many programs, and flexibility is must.  I don’t have money to waste on surprises nor do I have time to be constantly PM’Ing asking for such info.  I would NEVER buy copy protected goods as in content  ie Poser/Shade/Vue/Carrara I’m talking about MODELS…not the software/plugins, things of this nature.

Lets take the person at C3d that has 200 items – so now Vue 6 comes out, he has to re-download & reinstall & key in all those serial numbers.  This was different when EON just had about 12 trees up on their website, that was no big deal.  But content people are typically collectors(as you can tell from what I said above lol)

If you vendors want  protection you should all have a group meeting in a chat & discuss it and come with something better than this.  As I said, software/plugins etc etc I expect to have serials.  NOT content…it’s just way to cumbersome & tedious.  The way EON does  it, by having to register & provide registration codes just to get into forums would seem to be enough for me.  At  least you know only legitimate owners are buying, unlike anywhere else.  That IMHO, should be suffient.

Telling people to shop elsewhere or saying you don’t want dissenters as customers is not good IMHO and is NOT the answer, which is what got me ticked off.  I’m seeing way to too much as of late vendors being rude & ugly to their customers, not for the reasons being discussed here, but still no excuse.  This saddens me to no end.  I just can’t support vendors that berate their customers.

Now then to end a positive note, I want to say Forester has some of the best models around & is a very gracious & giving person. She has always gone out of her way to help me & done it promptly & in a very professional manner.

This whole deal is/has severed friendships & is now spilling over into the vendor arena – the sooner this is all solved the better for all, this is all very sad.  This community split is no good for anyone.  Can’t we fix the PLEASE!!!!!! STOP THE INSANTIY!!!!!!!

To quote Seinfeld – “SERENITY NOW”