@ blackhearted

i wouldn´t count on poser to get any better. it is not the people loosing focus,  i´d rather say poser went astray. what was meant to be a utility for illustrators turned to be a toy for hobbyists. i dare say that the majority of poser users does never touch the joint editor, let alone the setup room. they don´t want tools, the want toys - and content, of course. and if the customers don´t care, why should eF?

i am still on p5 because i couldn´t find a single improvement in p6 worth the money. but maybe they will spend some real work on p7 - 1500 euros, 2000...why not?

but i wouldn´t be surprised if poser 8 comes for free at daz together with the m4/v4-bundle.

i fear that poser has reached a dead end.....

sorry,

A.