Quote - I'd never dream of saying that "this is the way that a woman should look".  But I wouldn't hesitate to point out (truthfully) that it's the ideal......empirically for the majority of the male population.

The rule in neocon thinking is that first we define "the majority" as ourselves. Then if someone points out that white "majority" is slipping fast, we summon the spirit of St. Paddy of the Bog Trash (of which I am one, by the way) to excoriate mud people under various euphemisms.

The argument that what white middle-class media ram down our throat is the ideal because it's what white middle-class media ram down our throat is, well, we call it "circular." Vicki is the ideal the way you define "ideal," of the majority the way you define "majority," of males the way you define "males." You are wrong on all three counts.

The "ideal" is what we love, not what we drool on. The "majority" is all people, not just the ones who fit your definition by sharing your prejudices. And you don't get to be "male" until your values grow up.

Mick