wow! this thread kinda deviated in my absence!!! how did age of consent and pedos get in here!!! i was only curious like DrMCclark picked up on, that traditional art it would seem, if posted here would be removed and warnings/ban would follow!!! just natural nudity!! nothing at all to do with sex!! i would have to conclude that in America all nudity is somehow linked to sex or sexual urges!! i guess things are just different here in Europe where you can be nude and it can have nothing to do with sex whatsoever!! most people i have known wouldn't think to look twice at someone(whatever their age) if they were nude on a beach or something, because it is just natural!! it might raise an eyebrow or two if there were sex involved, but if someone is just sunbathing why would it bother you!! i guess people were born with clothes on in America!! doesn't matter anyway i got my answer from Tyger_purr, i hadn't read that before!! so thanks!!

if you want to be able to draw anything in the world, be it landscape,still life, etc... to be a master at all these elements, the only true way you will be in control of your lines, is if you have done figure drawing,nude and clothed,young and old, big or small!!! without studying human form, you can't ever expect to be a master of art, you can't even consider yourself a deciple!! this site isn't really an art based site, it is just a marketplace, the marketplace is defended but the art is not. i think the banner at the top should be changed to reflect this! it is not an art community!!