Not that it matters for this challenge but the challenge upload still isn't working for Mac Safari, PC/Mac Foxfire and PC IE 6 or earlier. Have you mentioned that to the site programmers? If you want, grab my image from the forums http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?message_id=2773086&ebot_calc_page#message_2773086 and upload it just to make it three. Thanks; Dan