Khai-

It all means that if an image has ANY serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value it is legal as long as no real person is used to make it.

The arguement that some pedo 'may' get there jollies off it is not relevant because the law itself also limits many, many other unrelated art and stories types. It splashs over into other areas it was not ment to limit.  (like nude faries)

" The overbreadth doctrine prohibits the Government from banning unprotected speech if a substantial amount of protected speech is prohibited or chilled in the process"

(paraphrase) speech that is itself "NOT" a record of sexual abuse, the CPPA prohibits speech that records no crime and creates no victims by its production

Actually SoCal- It has gone to the Supreme Court and and has been upheld. It is done. Unless you have 10 million dollars and 5 years to gamble that the court would even take it up for consideration.

Morgain- We all know that. We also know that any law that DOES go against this is not a valid law. So if you are going to use a specific LOCAL law that goes against the supreme court ruleing YOU would be in deep doodoo.

I just find it totally amazing that those of you who find it repugnant that the TOP court, whom your allways useing for law and order reasons, selectively want to pick and choose just which supreme court ruling you want to follow.

Allways say you are not allowing this or that to avoid breaking the law is pethic. If you wish I do have each and EVERY individual judges opinion I can post. You think this little summery is deep. Try again, lol

This thread is NOT in itself about the TOS. But it may be a good logical starting point. The differance between what is and what you wish it to be are seldom the same. This ruleing is the "what is" part. The TOS is the "what you want it to be part".

(lol, sometimes have a grownup conversation here is like asking Tony Snow a question about terrorist and CIA secret prisons interrogation techniques- your just plain not going to get a straight answer)