"Saying that "we don't support KP" -- and then going on to effectively say that it should be made legal ..."

Phonz, twas you who highlighted the 'not otherwise obscene' caveat. You know as well as I that any such images depicting explixit sexual acts would be held obscene, even by most Blue state juries. Hell, you can't even buy an such a video featuring featuring ADULTS in my county. Now perhaps in its dark heart (as you imagine it), the ACLU really feels that such images are not obscene but to parse that from their statement is an even more tortuous exercise than wending one's way through a sewer - (be careful using that one around a Freudian :-) - it's down right clairvoiyant.

The problem, as oft stated, it what is over the "line." In that, R'osity is simply a microcosm of the larger society. The Court sentences us to endless wrangling with the ridiculously subjective Miller ruling. Speeding is going fast enough to give a reasonable person goosebumps? R'osity could have avoided the problem by simply saying render what ou want as long as it's not grabbing it's crotch, fellating the MilDoggie, yada yada. Those are fairly objective standards. Even the notorious breast coverage formula might be if someone would write a boob calculator script. They chose a standard which at lease some "reasonable" people feel is far too subject inconsistent application - fine, it wasn't the first time and won't be the last, their call. The only people who benefit are those who get off on how far they can tug ght baby in one direction or the other - let's see if I can sneak this one past vs. let's see if I can get this one pulled.

As I suggested before, I think this is a solution in search of a problem. In years of looking for everything Poser related on the web, I've run across exactly one, uno site that featured Poser kiddies doing the nasty along with 2D versions of same - which BTW showed far more talent than the Poser variety. Hint, it's on a super secret part of the ACLU server, along with the secret pics of Osama's cave and the upskirt shots of Ann Coulter - though I get the last two confused. Damn, Phonz, I wanted to be the first to mention the venemous righ-wing pin-up girl. I read the account of her being attacked - with pies no less - by "Al Pieda." According to the local press, she wasn't hit directly by either of the missiles. For someone who delights in tossing bombs like:

"We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity."

"We need to execute people like John Walker in order to physically intimidate liberals, by making them realize that they can be killed, too."

"My only regret with Timothy McVeigh is he did not go to the New York Times Building."

I'd say that getting pied comes with the job and the paycheck. If Bill Gates and countless others can take a pie in the kisser and not deem it the end of Western Civilization, please. For a group that controls every political organ sight and has, claiming victimhood at the hands of a mythical left-wing juggernaut really does ring a bit hollow. Still, bring Annie over and I'll lick the whipped cream off her tortured tushie if she pays me enough - but I will not have sex with that woman.

On the subject of real, as opposed to slapstick violence though, I would suggest that a perusal of the news of the past decade or so would show that it is the far right which has the greater penchant for voting with real, as opposed to rhetorical explosives here in the US. With rare exceptions like the ELF (who I'm not sure have killed anyone yet), where are the violent leftists? The Islamists IMO are simply extreme rightists who disagree over what to call God. We have Tim McVeigh, Eric Rudolph, violent gay bashers, those 82nd Airborne troopies who decided that interracial couples made good target practice ... Remember, even Sadam's judge said, 'You weren't a dictator, it was the people around you who made you look like one.'  I admit, it must be all that navel gazing and ungodly moral relativism. Liberals just can't seem to believe in too many things with the fundamentalist zeal required to justify TNT.

"Democracy is a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance." - H. L. Mencken