uhm... wow... had no idea how much there was to poserizing a model.. I built the armor on a zeroed V3 obj. I really need figure out the whole grouping concept - I was with you up to that point. I have had limited success UV mapping in Hex with complex objects - simple ones no problem - but the complex forms I cant seem to make heads or tails of. Will give it a go and try to find that tutorial you mentioned.

Thanks,
monster

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