Thank you also, svdl.  You've carried on an interesting discussion.  As has pearce, and others.

@ Billy -- the unfortunate truth is that threads like this one can quickly turn nasty -- if someone comes in who wants to push it that way.  So I take no umbrage whatsoever if a mod/admin steps in.  shrug  Rendo's board -- Rendo's rules.  If I really want to discuss politics, then there are places to do that.  But unfortunately, the "discussions" in many of those places usually end up turning personal.

And @ Stacey -- thank you for doing your job. 

Movin' on..........

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