i can see what you're saying and agree with it fixer. i think many do. and i've blown the bugle for too long as to how i feel re a part of the tos lol so i don't want to bring it up again either really. in truth though i'm a member of a few sites....mainly for the modelling tuts and insightes i rarelt frequent them. i find this to be the one i like to use. if and when i leave it will be without fuss or regret hehe

billy