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As far as the poser users as artist thing goes Some make great pictures but the root of the problem is that those who do everything themselves often have to put a factor of 50 to 100 times the work into their images They know they used poser before they downloaded models before it is no mystry to them but they feel their work is worth the extra effort.

Agree... there are a lot of good poser images but honestly I think most of them look very much the same (same characters and props used over and over again). We should not forget that not everybody wishes to model their own models - this must be respected but I generally find renderings with self built models more interesting (even if not as technically perfect).

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