Okay, wondering just how many children, or folks who don't really have a clue or are just a wee bit ignorant are online here? Or do so many just want to make a fuss for the sake of joining the bandwagon and making a fuss?!

I suggest this only because of all the mishmash garbled here.

Sometimes I think folks just want a reason to whine and vent, or they'd sure find better things to gripe about like the hot twenty or naked stuff or big boobs or too many fairies in the gallery or so many other online cult classics of familiarity around here days gone by and so on and forevermore.

I suppose I just think there's really no reason to jump at Rendo about all this, it's all so stupid, what they supposed to do? They're really not doing anything different than any other place nor are they doing anything so worth hooting and screaming about like so many are doing here!

Not this time, well, other than being kind of evasive and dancing around, probably because they just don't really know what to say a lot of times; and what else is new huh, better to dance and be evasive than feel kinda at a loss at what to say. 

 Listen up!

Just an FYI.

Did you all know that ANY isp can access your e-mail, not just Rendo?

So why you making it JUST a Rendo thing?

It's the SAME not only on ANY FORUM to be able to ACCESS not only e-mails and PRIVATE MESSAGES, (which are not so private at all and probably the least PRIVATE, so I'm not so sure why the lovely description, but oh well, get over it, it's a way to gab online, and so is chat and msn and so many other PRIVATE ways, yet they are not so PRIVATE as we would like to believe in any way, shape or form), but  did you not know that ANY place hosting e-mails or communications online, including YOUR PLACE OF EMPLOYMENT and/or SCHOOLS or for that matter, any place you inscribe something online that gets logged or saved CAN do the SAME??!! Just like YOU, on your personal computers at home, CAN access all the same DATA anyone documents or uses on your computer no matter how many users/guests you have!! And yes, even after it's deleted!!!

As long as you know HOW, and it's not hard! Not at all!! A baby could do it with the right access!!

And did you know that once on a server, ANY server, ANYTHING and EVERYTHING is most certainly logged until it is at some point PURGED by a person qualified/responsible and doing that PURGING???

And did you know that even THEN it CAN still be retrieved if and when necessary?

Unless a GIANT stomps on the hard drive with BIG feet or some BIG magnet happens by or it's shot into outer space or there's a hard drive melting fire.

Did you also know that it is NOT COMMON for isp's and probably Rendo to access PERSONAL e-mails for ANY reason unless absolutely necessary, such as harrassment/court orders/warrants or worser concerns? Why would they offer personal communication just to snoop and be voyuers, I mean, what kind of business would do that unless they wanted to trace habits of their users so they can market better? There are plenty of them folks out there, but I think there are enough skilled folks as members here that would clue in quickly and/or track being tracked in such a ways if that were so!

BUT do not ever kid yourselves!!

It may well be illegal for any Joe Blow to access your accounts and browse your e-mails, (not talking private messages because they're just not the same and just a forum thing falling under forum TOS and forum scrutiny and how much those forums adhere to their own suggested principles, we'll really never know, only they will on they're side and you if your on that side peeking in or not), however, I will tell you one very CERTAIN FACT, e-mails ARE accessable!! And if there is a suggested valid reason it's quite amazing how something documented, (and everything online IS nowadays documented someways), can be held against you, no matter how bad a moment you might have been having or how drunk you were or how stupid or angry, it's a DOCUMENT and it CAN be held against you just as anything I write here can be right now if it were something awful!!

I've known people who have had charges laid against them only because of what they wrote into e-mails as proof; I've known people FIRED from  their jobs because their places of employment found out they were spending more complany time on personal e-mails and/or browsing personal sites, (like forums) while they were supposed to be working, and I've even known people to lose their schooling because of same!!

I'll tell you one more for the road, TODAY, this last year alone, many companies have started (secretly) hiring SPECIFIC task forces, and all these task forces do all day is look into company servers to SEE what the employees are doing all day ONLINE and yes, what kind of e-mails they communicate and what they browse online!! Why?? Because there are just too many people abusing company time; and time theft is what it's called and believe me there's a LOT of it, that's why they're doing this; and yes, it CAN be a reason to find you LET GO suddenly due to restructuring really fast, or just outright FIRED!!!

I've seen it many times, and just another person a month ago, she was a friend, she had no idea her habituals online at work were logged and peeped at and eventually also used against her as lost time when her company was trying to find a REASON to downsize and say byebye to the nests of slackers!

So think hard next time so many of you may jump online here or anywhere while doing your daily routines and KNOW it's being logged too, nevermind your e-mails sitting pretty for anyone to see that may have a reason to see them if need be and/or someone finds you a suspect to anything.

And don't go crying ILLEGAL, apparently it IS quite legal and valid for any company to peep at their own servers anytime at whatever YOU do while employed by them using their equipment! As for personal time and forums and home computers, even they are not safe havens if there is suspicion of you being some kind of suspect or weirdo doing weirdo things online. What you type and/or upload is documented somewhere and can be seen until purged appropriately and not by your mouse clicking deletes either.  

The internet and computer is probably the easiest way to catch people doing what they think nobody will ever know or see, and well, I guess you could say it leaves the best FINGERPRINTS you could ever leave wherever you go and whatever you do or say!

People can be so naive, and if your talking about the same people that drive around day after day thinking that just because they are in their cars with the window rolled up they are invisible, then any wonder so many really have no clue they may be leaving so many various computer/online entrails everywhere nowadays. 

Suppose it wasn't always like that, so goes the wonders of advancements and the beauty of the net huh? May as well have a tracking device built into every one of us while online nowadays because the moment your online, it's the same thing, your just a tattoo of what you do.

Unless your a tracker and know how to remain trackless; and the average computer person sure don't or you certainly wouldn't get conversations such as this thread.

Now, shall I start up about cell phones and blackberries and...??

Naaw, another time.

Sure, perhaps someone will come on with a smartass remark here. I'm not meaning this in a bad way at all, I just don't understand why so many slap on Renderosity about all this when it's not really something wicket or bad, it's just the common sense internet/and computers nowadays; in fact they couldn't give you this forum without the software you sign on to use, so what's the gripe??

Do you all do the same with all your isp's and online chatting devices and dating services and even when you browse or google or play online games??? Do you yell at your own computers for leaving a trail behind?? Because I tell you, SOMEONE is able to watch you or perhaps is tracking your every move no matter WHAT you do!! So start complaining at all places online and all forums online and everyone and everything online if your going to nitpick about all this here, because it's no different except for different admins and folks running it all, and some places you go online to I'm certain have no TOS at all and your still ONLINE bigtime!!

Hey look, I know folks that have been AWAKENED the hard way, I also know folks that work in this field, and I myself work with this stuff enough to know what gets logged on a server too, EVERYTHING!!

Excuse me, time for my bath now; and when I'm done my dirt will go down the drain for anyone to see somewhere in the river or the big lake...glub..