The first question one has to ask is if any of the people sharing and burning copies of Poser directly with each other are ever going to be real customers and purchase Poser in the first place? I suspect most of this goes on in schools and is more in the line of a demo substitute and they soon tire of the "fully working demo" and move on to other stuff or will not have the money to become real customers for some time. If this is the case then it seems a waste of time, effort and money putting real customers through all the hoops just to prevent an illegal activity that does not really affect sales in the first place. It might be an idea for software manufacturers to do some research into this before contemplating a radical departure into program protection. Warez sites are very different. Most people willing to spend many hours and days downloading a large 200 megabyte+ program are probably real potential customers and the warez from these places represents real financial loss. Just a few thoughts. Regards STORM