CL will ensure my further graduation to Max/Character Studio, or a similar solution, if they are going to include something vbox like. Already they have ensured I will not be an early adopter. I'll be waiting to see what happens. FWIW, Max 4.0 and Character Studio 3 also incorporate a "software lock" in lieu of the hardware lock that was used in Max 3 and earlier. Looks as though software locks are the wave of the future. Denise