well - i went out and took some shots... i took them raw and noise reduced them further and they seemed to come out ok to be honest.  But in terms of "good photo" i dont think they were, but i posted one up in my gallery because i thought it would be a waste if i didnt...check it out here:

Night shot

another type of photography knowledge under my belt, maybe next time i can improve - maybe i should invest in a tripod instead of using my camera bag

"In every colour, there's the light.
In every stone sleeps a crystal.
Remember the Shaman, when he used to say:
Man is the dream of the Dolphin"

Rich Meadows Photography