I should have said: "Apple ][" -- how quickly we forget.... Re Robert Belton and piracy source: The source and tracking issues you bring up are interesting but by "actual users pirating" I meant using the program and distributing to others who would actually use the program. Like some sort of crazy pirate poser sewing circle. This goes to the lost revenues aspect that folks keep mentioning, which from a business standpoint, is a somewhat questionable proposition. You can't put that on your balance sheet as a loss, at least not with my accountant. It is not real, it is an estimate, a potential. What the CL people are saying is maybe 5-10% guesstimate of the ripped off ppp is from people who would otherwise buy the software. They add up thousands of copies of stolen software, think about that percent and translate into people's paychecks and funding. I say that's maybe a thought experiment best avoided. I think if you go further down this here path you get into divergent philosophies, business and otherwise. >> Keep in mind that if it's the eleventh hour you still can install and have that grace period to register, during which time the app is fully functional. << Good to know, that eases some meltdown concerns. On stealing front desk, maids, etc.: If I were to find myself booked at a hotel with bars on the windows, chances are I'm in the wrong part of town. You know, all this stuff is coming to a head fast--why I find this interesting. Copyright issues with everything--books, movies, artwork, software, music. Anything that can be digitized, will be and then will be ripped off. That's an underlying cultural problem. It's not going away. Locks and enforcement of any sort won't stop it. Education might. Interesting times ahead!