Just a comment on Dale's post - by my crude figuring (from the current DAZ price list) all the D|S plugs except the FBX exporter is $180.40 and with the PC membership that's $156.53 (not $249.60). Just like EF and Poser 7, DAZ offered most, if not all these at reduced introductory prices. I have no use for any of the D|S plugs so for me D|S was free. I also have little interest in Poser's Cloth or Hair simulators. For cross platform users like me, the splitting of Poser PC and Mac into seperate licenses makes it much more expensive. If I were to preorder, for me to upgrade to Poser 7 will cost $259.98. This one marketing move was one of the main reason I moved more towards D|S (and Poser 6's defective Mac disks). Best; Dan